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Where are you located?

We are located at the Cincinnati Blue Ash Airport in Cincinnati, Ohio. See the Contact Info page for a map and other details on contacting the club.

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How do I join FNI?

Joining our club is a simple process. You just need to contact a member of our membership committee, which recruits and screens all applicants. You can do this one of three ways:

  • Send an email to FlyingNeutrons@fuse.net: Let us know your name, phone, and pilot status (interested in learning to fly, already a pilot, your hours/ratings, etc.) so we can get the right people to respond back to you. (This is probably the best way to contact us.)
    OR
  • Call and leave a message at (513) 791-9198. The process is the same as above, but we will need to ask some of the baseline information to understand how the club can help you.
    OR
  • Download, fill out, and mail an application. This will trigger a call from the membership committee to meet and have a two way information sharing session.
After we have gathered your intial information, we will talk with you and the references you provide to see if there is a good fit with our club. If all is in order, then you just need to attend one of our club meetings where you are voted into the club. At that point you can begin to enjoy all that the club has to offer and contribute to its on-going success.

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Why should I join FNI?

Safety
FNI is proud to have flown for over 50 years with an exceptional level of safety. This is a direct result of excellent maintenance procedures, strong pilot standardization programs and careful selection of the membership.

Our club-approved instructors will help you get your ratings and help you keep your flying skills sharp
We have about 12 club-approved FAA certified flight instructors in our membership who actively instruct. They have many years of experience and instruct for the love of flying, not just to build time for the airlines. As a result, our students are thoroughly prepared for a lifetime of safe and enjoyable flying, not just the minimum needed to pass the flight and knowledge exams. Click here for more information on flight training at FNI.

We have the low cost way to learn and to fly
Our rates are better than you'll find elsewhere in the area for comparable aircraft. Our Operations rules support realistic use of the fleet. There are no trip minimums--you pay only the hours you fly. We measure tach time, not Hobbs time. This can provide an additional 5-15% savings, as tach times tend to run under Hobbs time. See more details on how you will save money by clicking here.

Be a part of a strong community of fellow pilots
We have Monthly club meetings for governance and operations. Semi-annual plane washes build camaraderie and keeps our planes looking great. We have an annual banquet with informative and interesting aviation speakers. And you can almost always find someone just hanging around the clubhouse on a nice afternoon.

Insurance coverage is provided for members
FNI is proud to provide safe and economical access to planes. We carry insurance from certified companies and provide coverage that is often much better than what a pilot would be able to obtain privately. Contact our insurance chairman for more details.

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How do I save money flying with FNI?

Besides all the other benefits of being part of a member-owned club, you can also save money on your flight expenses. You do this in several ways:

  • Low hourly rates.
    Members pay just what it costs the club to keep the aircraft flying. There is no profit being made, so costs are kept to a minimum. Fixed costs are covered by the initial membership fee and monthly dues, while variable costs are covered by the hourly flying rate.

  • Time measured on the Tach, not the Hobbs meter.
    Members are charged by tach time, not Hobbs time. Practically all commercial FBOs and flight schools charge Hobbs time, which runs at a real-time rate while the engine is running. Tach time, however, runs faster when the engine is running faster (approximately real-time at a cruise power setting) and slower when the engine is running slower. The net effect is that you will see a lower tach time than Hobbs time for the same flight. For flights where you spend a lot of time at low power settings, such as practicing in the pattern, you could see savings of 10-15% over Hobbs time. We charge by tach time, because we are interested in only covering our costs, not making a profit. All hourly aircraft maintenance is based on tach time, so that is what we use.

  • Insurance included as a club member.
    As a club member, you are provided insurance coverage while flying club airplanes. There is no need to obtain renter's insurance, which can save you hundreds of dollars a year. Contact our insurance chairman for more details.
For example, if you fly, on average, 60 hours/year in a Cessna 172, you would realize the following annual savings over a typical FBO:

FBO Flying Neutrons
Cessna 172 rental ($115/hr + 6.5% tax = $122.48/hr) x 60 hrs $7349 ($104/hr - 10% tach time savings = $93.60/hr) x 60 hrs $5616
Insurance Renter's insurance from AOPA with
$1,000,000/100,000 liability
and $20,000 property damage
$447 Insurance included with club membership $ 0
Monthly dues Not applicable $ 0 12 months dues $600
TOTAL   $7796   $6216
Cost per hour   $130   $104
(NOTE: There is also a capital contribution required when joining the club - see Club Info.)

How do I learn to fly?

You will find the instructors, aircraft, and support at FNI that will make learning to fly a quick and enjoyable process! Below is a summary of the different certificates and ratings you can earn.

Private Pilot
The Private Pilot certificate is your license to fly. This is the certificate that allows you to fly most anywhere you want, most anytime you want, by yourself or with passengers. At the Flying Neutrons, you will find the expertise and support that will make getting your certificate an enjoyable experience.

Your Private Pilot training will consist of two major components: Ground School and Flight Training. In Ground school you will learn everything you need to know to pass your written exam. Topics include navigation, meteorology, aerodynamics, regulations, and aircraft systems. You can either study the Ground School material on your own pace at home, or take a class.

Your Flight Training will consist of time spent with your instructor, called dual, and time spent practicing by yourself, called solo. During your dual time, your instructor will teach you how to control the airplane and how to perform the various maneuvers required to pass the FAA practical test and become a safe pilot.

Your first solo flight is something that you will remember forever! This normally occurs in your first 10 or 15 hours of training, but is different for each pilot. This is the first time you fly without an instructor on board the aircraft. You will then go on to practice the maneuvers that your instructor taught you during dual, and complete the solo requirements for the Private Pilot certificate.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) establishes minimum requirements for obtaining a Private Pilot Certificate:

  • That you be at least 17 years old, although there is nothing to stop you starting training much younger.
  • That you are able to read, speak and understand English.
  • That you obtain a third-class medical certificate, although you can start training prior to taking the medical.
  • That you pass the FAA written test.
  • That you pass an oral and flight test.
Before you can take the flight test you must log at least 40 hours of flight time of which at least 20 hours must be flight instruction from a certificated flight instructor including three hours of instrument training, three hours at night (including 10 takeoffs and landings at night) and three hours of preparation within 60 days of the flight test. You must also have 10 hours of solo flight time (including 5 cross-country), including a 150nm Solo cross-country flight.

These are simply minimums and most people will fly 50-70 hours or more in order to achieve the required level of proficiency. The following table shows typical costs for obtaining a Private Pilot Certificate as a member of the Flying Neutrons (assuming 9 months to complete the requirements flying once or twice a week):

Description Cost
9 months of club membership ($50/mo) $ 450
60 hours of C172 aircraft time ($104/hr) $6240
40 hours of flight instruction ($25/hr) $1000
15 hours of ground instruction ($25/hr) $ 375
Headset $ 150
Books, maps, supplies, etc. $ 300
Examiner fee for flight test $ 250
TOTAL $8765
(NOTE: There is also a capital contribution required when joining the club - see Club Info.)

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Instrument Pilot
After achieving your goal of that coveted Private Pilot's license you will be ready for what many consider to be the most challenging rating in aviation: the Instrument Rating. You will then be able to fly in instrument metrological conditions using state of the art avionics, including modern GPS's. Our IFR simulator, club-approved flight instructors, and well-equipped aircraft are ready to help you achieve your goal.

Commercial Pilot
Ever wanted to fly for a living? Are you longing to fly for the airlines, be a fire bomber, crop duster, flight instructor or skywriter? Well, these and hundreds of other flying careers have one thing in common: they all require a commercial pilot's certificate.

Even if you don't want to use your wings to earn your paycheck, commercial training gives you the skills to fly complex aircraft with the precision and safety margins that airline passengers have come to take for granted. When you train for your commercial certificate at FNI, you will fly a Piper Arrow P28R-201, a retractable gear, complex, single engine aircraft. In addition to the maneuvers you mastered while earning your private pilot certificate and instrument rating, you will learn additional, maximum performance maneuvers such as the chandelle, lazy-8 and eights-on-pylons. This training will build your precision, coordination, planning, orientation and overall smoothness on the controls. After your training, short field and crosswind landings will be a breeze!

Flight Instructor
Are you a natural leader? Are you the patient, mentoring type of person that always seems to be answering somebody's questions? Do you aspire to a career as an airline pilot? Can you handle the responsibility of creating a new generation of aviators? If so, you may have what it takes to become a flight instructor. The Certified Flight Instructor (CFI) Certificate allows you to act as an extension of the FAA. As a CFI, you become responsible for training and certifying pilots who will then go forward and operate within the nation's airspace. One of the many bonuses of being a CFI is that each hour of flight instruction you give may be logged as pilot-in-command (PIC) time.

Your ground lessons will focus on learning the fundamentals of instruction, creating lesson plans and practicing how to teach. You will also review all of the responsibilities and privileges of the CFI and perfect your knowledge of all the material needed to work with primary and advanced students. Your flight training will encompass learning to fly from the right seat, and perfecting your performance of the required maneuvers for the CFI practical test.

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How much does it cost to take a trip in a small plane?

Small planes can be very economical compared to commercial aviation for short trips of less than 800 miles or so, especially when booking on short notice and carrying multiple passengers. From Cincinnati, this would cover an area of St. Louis to the west, Milwaukee and the northern part of the southern Michigan peninsula to the North, Boston to the east and the Carolina coast or Atlanta to the south. Longer trips are also practical but require fuel stops.

For example, we have calculated a typical trip from Cincinnati Blue Ash airport (KISZ to Manassas, Virginia (KHEF), which has the closest airport to Washington D.C. that will accept small aircraft. Manassas field has a Washington Metro terminal adjacent to the field, in addition to easy access to rental cars and taxis. The one-way driving time is about 8 1/2 hours (517 miles) or 17 hours round trip. The straight-line flight distance is 370 miles (322nm) or 644nm round trip. The following table shows the round-trip times and costs for our various aircraft:

Aircraft Seats Speed
(knots)
Rate Hours Flight
cost
Seat
cost
C172 4 110 $104 6:00 $624 $156
P28R 4 135 $125 4:48 $600 $150
C182 4 145 $148 4:36 $681 $170
PA32 6 135 $157 4:48 $754 $126

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What is your Flight Simulator and how does it help me?

We have an ATC-610 IFR Flight Simulator in our clubhouse. Club members use the simulator while working on their instrument rating, as well as for recurring training and practice. The ATC-610 simulator is based on a PA28R-201 Piper Arrow aircraft. It has the following features:

  • Predefined flight sequences
  • ATC tapes with pilot readback included or blank times for you to do the readback
  • A physical chart with an inked course line to review actual versus planned flight path
  • The ability to introduce variable weather and equipment failures
Using the flight simulator provides the following benefits over an actual flight:
  • It is a safe low-stress way to introduce flight in IFR conditions.
  • It provides for a more efficient use of time, because approach sequences and instrument maneuvers can be easily paused, repeated, or entered at any intermediate point as often as needed.
  • It allows for a quiet, controlled teaching environemnt where the student can concentrate on just the task being learned.
  • It is very inexpensive at only $6/hour
  • You can log IFR time as long as you have a flight instructor with you, so it helps to build the time required to get your instrument rating

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